Dealing With Downtime

As most of you may have noticed by now, I like to relate my articles to things I actually do or think about in my real  life.  On Monday, I came down with a nasty stomach virus that forced me to leave work early.  I felt like shit, went home, and got some rest.   When I woke up I got to thinking about how being the type of guy I am, who handles a ton of shit on his plate daily, I can’t afford much downtime, but I’m also not a machine either.  Today I’ll cover my insights on why downtime is necessary, and how you can use it to your advantage.

Sitting home Monday, even though I felt like hell, did wonders for me.  I was completely off the grid from my normal life.   Kids were in school, wife at work, away from my email/job etc.   I was alone with just my thoughts, no obligations (at that point), free to let my mind wander.   Rather than have to make an on the fly decision, I could step back and view things from a calm, collected point of view.

I think we can forget sometimes that we need a time to collect ourselves.  Running a family/marriage on top of all your other obligations can take a toll at times.  I’m not saying its too much to deal with, but a little time for yourself is necessary.

One interesting thing I came upon in my “downtime” was that I actually worked out some problems I was having with my “up time.”  I had a problem with something at work, and when you’re in the thick of it, the solution can seem far off.  Having time to think it through, uninterrupted, led me to a solution I hadn’t even considered.  Not only that, but my drive and focus on these tasks had a double benefit, as it took my mind off of how shitty I had been feeling.

Mindset

“Once your mindset changes, everything on the outside will change along with it.”

– Steve Mariboli

The key thing I learned is that downtime, and what you do with it all comes down to your mindset.   If you loaf around with your downtime or if you’re in a negative mindset, you will probably feel worse than if you even used 10% of your attention to something you’re trying to achieve. I simply hate sitting idle watching TV or playing video games.  This has carryover into almost every other part of you life, because if you can accomplish something when you’re not at 100%, then think of what you’re capable of doing when you are on you A game.

I’ll note here that if you’re puking your guts up or severely injured there may not be much you can do, but as long as your brain is working, you should be able to make use of time that would be otherwise wasted.

Also, not everything you do with downtime has to relate to work.  You can use it to finally start that course on learning a new language, or use it to evaluate your nutrition plan.  In fact, I recommend using downtime for something personal as well as some other outside goal or obligation you may have.  Some examples could be:

Researching some obscure topic that would benefit you in some way.

Planning a vacation for your family.

Evaluating your finances to see where you can save money

Learn a new skill or hobby that you’ve always wanted

Focusing on some task you’ve been putting off

It will be different for everyone, but you get the idea.  I’ll note too that maybe your life is really hectic and when you get a chance to relax you do just that.  Nothing wrong with it, but for me if I’m not doing something productive, I begin to go a little crazy.   I need something to focus my energy on at all times, so utilizing the downtime is something I’ve found to help me immensely.

Conclusion

Time off from owning your shit and kicking ass doesn’t have to be time wasted.  Simply having the solitude to think deeply on things that have been bothering you can be a great way to reaching a conclusion.  This time is also well spent focusing on some “self maintenance” if you’ve been neglecting that part of your life.  Further, if you just say fuck it and lay around in your downtime, so be it.  I found that if you can “make time” for shit like Facebook and video games, you should be able to redirect that time into productivity.  Remember the time we have here is short, so using every minute to your advantage puts us above the rest of the herd.

I’d love to hear feedback from you guys to see how you use your idle time or time in which you’re removed from obligation.  Drop a comment below.

-J. Nyx 

 

 

Author: Jnyx

J. Nyx is a father of three and co-owner of akingscastle.com. He understands that there is something missing in the community and that you can be a traditional, masculine man in our current age as well as a dedicated leader of your family.

  • NemesisEnforcer

    A while back I herniated a disk in my back and Had to have surgery. Prior to the surgery, I was basically immobilized. Even then, the internet is a great resource. So are books. And if you fall back on TV, there are tons of great documentaries and educational programs.

    • Consolation_of_Philosophy

      Hope you are well into recovery! I have lasting nerve damage from my dance with disc injury…

  • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

    There’s downtime, and then there’s downtime. I take great pleasure in a nap on a hammock in summer with a warm light breeze blowing over me. The need to be “always on” I’ve never understood. I get the thrust of the article and agree that you can’t just spend all of your downtime, every time, just farting around and watching reruns of M.A.S.H., but I’m also of the mind that there really is some value in not having “something to do” once in a while. I’ve found that occasionally *not* focusing on anything and just zoning out while sitting under a tree or sitting on a creek bank fishing helps your subconscious solve life issues more than pondering them too deeply. I’ll just be sitting, looking at the water and casting my line and suddenly Bam! “Oh, you know what, I forgot to use a double instead of an integer, that’s why the program keeps exploding!”

    • I get that GOJ. For me, leisure time is time spent on other projects. Projects I want to do. Tending to my garden or fixing that wobbly stair. Actual downtime to loaf around can be beneficial as you said as well, but the decision to go fishing, getting your gear set up, baiting the hook and reeling in the fish IS doing something heh

      • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

        It is doing something, I mean more along the more formal “doing something”. I mean hell, sitting under a tree requires walking to the tree first, right? I’m more specifically talking about “Hey, I have five hours alone, I can do the next 8 tasks on my TODO list!”. Sometimes that’s great, in fact usually it’s great, but once in a while I want to just say “Fuck it” and go fishing.

        • I see, yeah I agree there. Spontaneous “let me do this” is good for you.

        • Jim Johnson

          There is definitely a balance there. Sometimes recharging the batteries and enjoying life takes precedence over repairing that door that doesn’t shut. Some guys are in a rush so much that they stop enjoying life, other guys neglect responsibility to the point that their personal lives suffer and they stop enjoying life. A workaholic and a loser druggie are at the opposite ends, but the result is similar.

          • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

            Indeed, which is why we should always strive for the Mean, the balance. and avoid extremes. I know some here aren’t fond of Aristotle but if I were to take anything from him that has real value into the world, it would be to seek the Mean in all of your thoughts and actions.

          • Hipponax (μητροκοίτης)

            The funny thing about seeking the mean, and I mentioned this when I was an upstart undergraduate hell bent on acting much smarter than I was….there are loads of ways to get to the mean. Let us say that the mean we aim at is 5 to use an arbitrary but commonly understood as mid set number. When Aristotle suggest finding the mean (and technically he is looking for a “golden mean” which is slightly leaning towards the passions but that’s neither here nor there) we might answer to him, “hey cunt (I call him a cunt and he knows why),” “do you want us to be boring old sods and hit {5,5,5,5,5,5} or should we live in extremes and do {10,10,10,0,0,0}” If Person A does 5 all his life and person B alternates between 10 and 0 they both, wrt mean, find a nice even existence.

          • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

            I’m not sure I’d want to hit 10,10,10,0,0,0 on most things, since the extremes are almost (almost) always really bad jojo. Being a crack addict who can’t own his own shit, for example as Jim mentioned, would really freaking suck hind tit. I’d rather have balance in my work-life and be “boring” any day of the week than to be a career obsessed robodrone, or a meth addict.

            I can see that in some cases though, such as gravitating between extreme hedonism and extreme asceticism, that you can get some real value from both ends as well as the journey through the middle to get to them though.

            EDIT: I get the cost averaging joke, btw.

          • Hipponax (μητροκοίτης)

            but same with 8’s and 2’s 7’s and 3s.
            You can live on very outlining areas. I think I, to an extent, alternate between extreme hedonism and extreme austerity and have found a balance that works for me. I have known people who were 10 and 0. Still do know one. Guy could be a 20 hour a day working on wall street, banging hookers, snorting coke, eating pills and then Friday night comes and he is home, in his bedroom with the lights off and a total monk. Been doing it for decades. Seems to work for him. Different people have different abilities. I just worry that too many people read that cunt and think that living life in the mean is the same as living life and achieving a mean

          • cheeseburgercheeseburger

            3’s and 7’s

          • Hipponax (μητροκοίτης)

            holy time machine cheeseburger

          • cheeseburgercheeseburger

            10 years old…

          • Hipponax (μητροκοίτης)

            like my last girlfriend.

          • …fixed her wagon.

          • Hipponax (μητροκοίτης)

            literally. That’s how we met. Her wagon was broken

          • …from hauling around that bun in her Easy Bake…

          • bem

            71 Challenger with an AUTOMATIC!!!!!! WTF?!?
            fukkin chics….

          • cheeseburgercheeseburger

            LOL

          • bem

            Pabst Lives!

          • NemesisEnforcer

            As long as I have loved that song, and I had never seen the video. Such a shame that Music Television is gone. Would!

          • cheeseburgercheeseburger

            Would?

          • NemesisEnforcer

            I meant it in the would bang vein, but this works too.

          • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

            I think it’s all a matter of context. Varying between two unharmful extremes really doesn’t seem like a big deal, but when you have extremes that are in fact quite harmful to your person, your health and your soul, for lack of a better term, then seeking the peaceful middle ground is probably the best path.

          • Jim Johnson

            My surveying teacher told me in college, “If you talk to a statistician, everyone in the world has one testicle”. Not sure what he meant by it, but I thought it was a funny quip.

          • Hipponax (μητροκοίτης)

            Assuming women make up 50% of the population it would literally be true. Men have 2 women 0 statistically if men and women are split even everyone has one.

            Same as the joke about the statistician that went hunting with his two friends. They see a deer. One misses 10 feet to the left. One misses 10 fee to to the right. They say to the statistician “ok you try” and he says “why bother, we already hit it”

        • My dad keeps a running list of questions he’s asked about how this, that, or the other works (usually a protocol or library or take-for-granted algorithm). During his work downtimes (when the workload is light), he runs down the list exploring those questions. Invariably, the answers he comes up with come into play at some point, anyway.

          After work, though, he’s the type to go tend his garden or take a fishing rod down to the pond (sometimes he don’t even bring bait).

      • Hipponax (μητροκοίτης)

        I am with you on this. Downtime? Let me learn banjo (which is taking forever), let me write a new workout program, let me go to the park, let me go out and get laid, rearrange my furniture, bla bla bla…..but when I really do unwind, when I pick up and go on vacation for a week, I pretty much do nothing but swim and fuck and drink and eat and sleep and loaf around. Battery recharging.

        • AutomaticSlim

          “I pretty much do nothing but swim and fuck and drink and eat and sleep”

          I remember that line from “Jaws”…

          • bem

            its funny, in Jaws it was 4 different parties doing those tasks!

          • cheeseburgercheeseburger

            that was the one where jaws was the size of the Titanic, right?

          • bem

            nah, just the original punk-ass robofish

          • Ainigmaris Thales

            Jaws is hands-down the greatest movie ever made.

          • bem

            psssssssssh
            It was OK, but it was no “Driving Miss Daisy”…

          • Ainigmaris Thales

            You know Morgan Freeman hit that.

          • cheeseburgercheeseburger

            well, I think he was hitting his step granddaughter…

          • Ainigmaris Thales

            Why not both?

          • AutomaticSlim

            Hahaha, the one from the exorcism?

          • cheeseburgercheeseburger

            no, really, I think he married his step granddaughter

          • bem

            you’re thinking of Woody Allen

          • cheeseburgercheeseburger

            no hammer, I aint

          • bem
          • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ
          • AutomaticSlim

            Holy cripes!

          • bem

            who wouldn’t?!?!??!?!

          • AutomaticSlim

            It’s certainly up there.
            Probably the best “blockbuster” movie I can think of.

            I’d put Death Wish, The Outlaw Josey Wales, The Godfather, The Road Warrior, and a bunch of other in the “best movie” conversation too. I’m 70s centric…

          • bem

            Blues Brothers.

          • AutomaticSlim

            Henry Gibson!

          • bem

            One of those despised Illinois nazis!

          • Chip Baskets

            Greatest movie ever is Over the Top.

          • AutomaticSlim

            +1 for the father training his previously wussy son to become a man!

        • Same, on vacation I am on downtime, while home in the daily grind, I feel like I have to choose some task to do because I deal with so many other peoples problems all day I’m like “fuck, lets work on this”

        • Iattacku

          i thought you read books as well on your vacation

          • Hipponax (μητροκοίτης)

            Mostly spy novels or detective fiction on the beach. Brain candy

          • Iattacku

            hipponax give me some good book recommendations. I need to become well read

          • Hipponax (μητροκοίτης)

            It really depends on what you want to read. When I relax I like to read detective books. Raymond Chandler, Ian Fleming are the classics. Good place to start

            If you want something with more soul Thomas Mann’ The Magic Mountain or Dostoyevsky’s Karamozov

    • I appreciate this (as well as the article’s perspective). It’s good to find ways to be and feel productive, especially when you’re hurt, so that you don’t start up a pity party and it’s also a good time to get minor things done you might skip over when rushed. But it’s also nice to get away from the hustle and hassles.

      I have to either find something to completely focus on or something that I don’t have to focus on as much but still have to engage, like fishing, or my mind won’t rest. Most nights I can’t even shut off when I sleep.

      It’s so important to get offline periodically and I don’t know, cleanse the brain of all the webbing. So, whenever I can get away and get refreshed it’s great and I don’t feel it was time better spent otherwise. Also why, despite not looking at marriage, I’m glad to have one live-in sub. She can usually relax me.

      • ” I have to either find something to completely focus on or something that I don’t have to focus on as much but still have to engage, like fishing, or my mind won’t rest”

        I am exactly the same. I like working with my hands (wood working, masonry etc) even practicing for hunting season. As long as Im engaged in something, im good.

        • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

          Now see, I can take that time and just site back, close my eyes and go through scenes of Beowulf in my head and meander among the imagery trying to remember the correct Saxon words and phrases to describe it. Or I’ll sit and go over two liner jokes and construct stories around them. If I’m around other people I’ll play the “Who would be alpha if this room was transported to a deserted planet” game, where I exclude myself and then try to figure out the social dynamics based on the behavior I’m observing in the room. My mind is very artsy fartsy creative in one way and very logical in another way. I am never bored, heh.

          • (Been a bit, but bare with me)

            Never did the man sit idle
            Forever was a thing to be done
            Not for him was wasting an hour
            No twiddling to do with his thumbs

            Afterall there were stars in the sky
            And songs found in every brook
            Many questions waited for answer
            Many quests yet left to be took

            And so he determined to solve them
            As many as ever he might
            The years gave way all too quickly
            As morning soon does to the night

            The man grew beyond his body
            A friendship with time he held fast
            Each moment he strode toward the future
            But always he cherished the past

            His life some would say was wasted
            But what waste to live every day?
            Others may walk diff’rent paths
            But for each there is no other way.
            -GS 92017

          • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

            Didn’t Gandhi say that?

          • I’m certain Gandhi said that, at least once. In fact, he may have said that many times.

          • bem

            “Gandhi, shut the fuk up.”
            -Going Sane 2017

    • AutomaticSlim

      “I forgot to use a double instead of an integer…”

      You’re a programmer???
      Never would have guessed that.

      • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

        Nobody does until I mention it, especially in real life. Most folks think I do blue collar manly stuff in real life, and I don’t say any different. There’s a change in how people perceive you, treat you and what expectations they have out of you based on your career. I’d lose about ten ranks of Alpha in all of my biker groups if it got out that I was a programmer, so I just stick with my (real and official) side business as my job (I make leather items).

        • AutomaticSlim

          I was thinking more about the extrovert vs introvert thing.
          I’ve been in the field since 87 (30 years!).
          It’s mostly introverts, like me.
          I do it only for the money now.
          Don’t really enjoy it any more.
          Are you permanent staff, or independent consultant like me?

          • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

            I was consultant for years, that’s where the big money is at, but have turned permanent staff because the place I’m with now offered:

            1. Keep my rate the same as my consulting rate (!)
            2. Give me lots of free, excellent benefits
            3. 5 weeks vacation a year and I can carry over 2 so now I have 7 weeks a year to use
            4. Work from home, all the time.

            I’m the rare extrovert so I really don’t get along with my peer group much. The forced “You Will Have Fun” events I have to attend every six months or so I’m the only guy out talking to others (non-programmers), drinking, back slapping, having a great time while my “peer group” stand in little clots at the side of the room and talk about how to solve the latest scripting error. Fuck that noise.

          • AutomaticSlim

            (1) Is fantastic. The rest of your points are good too.
            Nice find on that job.

            Yeah, even though I am an introvert I absolutely do not mix well with the dweebs. I’ll go for team drinks when they have them, but that’s about it. These days, the dweebs are about 80% Indians on H1Bs anyways. They have decorations in the office for “Diwali”…

          • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

            Most Hindudes get on my last nerve. Throw in some Ay-rabs (gah) and you have a perfect solution to prevent any kind of fun from occurring, ever. There is exactly one Hindude at work that I get along with, who was clearly from a higher caste, who speaks perfect (non-shit in mouth) English, and who has ditched curry and all other habits and become a total American. Drinks, has a motorcycle, flirts with girls, the whole 9 yards. He can’t stand hanging with “his people” either at events lol.

          • AutomaticSlim

            Yeah, I know a guy like that. Worked for him at my last contract. Good guy. Gave me 2 rate increases without my having to ask, and even squashed a complaint to HR against me. He’s married to an American girl & has 3 kids…and cheats on her left and right and never ceases to joke around about it. The traders love him. He’s the designated IT party guy for the trade floor.

          • UWOTM8

            When they really go American, they don’t hold back.

          • L’UltimoConservatore

            Haha! That reminds me of some of the stuff I had to attend not all that long ago. In my case it was a bit different though. I was the Computer Scientist. So you’ve got the programmers. Then you’ve got the engineers. And then there’s my group which everyone is somehow scared of. To make matters worse, the last thing I wanted to talk about at a social gathering was computers. So I was essentially shut out from all the groups and ended up chatting mostly with the art department. But hey, picked up some great Illustrator and Photoshop tips I still use today, so it was all good. 🙂

      • Iattacku

        im currently in college for computer science in my senior year. Any words of wisdom for a new guy like men. this goes for ghost of jefferson as well

        • I’m a young buck in the field for only a couple of years. Here are my pieces of advice:

          1. Don’t expect a job to materialize, at least for a while. Entry level programmers are a dime a dozen, and it takes a while to distinguish yourself from the mass of guys who will never really develop past that point (most programmers, especially, don’t have “the knack”).

          2. Certifications. You need them. You’d be amazed how many jobs demand you have one or two certifications, even at a fairly basic level. I’d say CISSP, CCNA, the various Windows Server certifications, and some of the security certifications are your best bets. Programming certs are meaningless, though, and database certs are only necessary if you’re going into database design for big companies (the cert requirements are dumb and don’t test whether you can actually build a database).

          3. Resume. Never stop working on your resume, even when you have a job. Build a bulky “master resume” with all sorts of things in it that you can pull from to create a custom resume for the job. And, yes, you need a custom resume for each job application that contains as many terms from the job posting as possible, just to get in the door.

          4. Experience. You likely don’t have any (college, itself, doesn’t count). Get involved, even in a minor way, with something on GitHub. That adds “experience with git repository and version control,” “experience with open source development”, and a project to your resume. Honestly, it’s not a bad idea even when you have a job, as it doesn’t really take much to be a “contributor” to a project and you can learn a thing or three.

          5. I assume you’re graduating in spring? Start applying now. Even if they’re looking to hire soon, at least you can get your resume on file and show interest early. Plus, you’ll get a look at what key terms and experiences pop up most often and be able to gear your experiences toward those.

          6. Don’t just rely on the giants. Google, Intel, HP, and the other big guys always need programmers, but they’re also always flooded with applications. Check out the startup market, make friendly with some local businesses, and try to get in groups that can find you the small firms (DEFCON groups, OWASP, etc.). Heck, you might find yourself the only candidate for the job.

          • And work on your LinkedIn presence. It’s stupid, but it’s a popular tool in our field.

          • AutomaticSlim

            “Certifications. You need them. You’d be amazed how many jobs demand you
            have one or two certifications, even at a fairly basic level. I’d say
            CISSP, CCNA, the various”

            Is that what companies are looking for from the younger guys now? I never even bothered to look into that kind of stuff. I suppose I was lucky enough to start right out of college with a company with a very big reputation. I left after 3 years and drove around the country for 5 months. When I landed in Ca, they hired me solely because where I had worked, even with the 5 month gap. Came back to NY and went right back to the Wall St. firms and have been there since. I almost never have to interview anymore, although at my current contract, I did have to do this, as no one there had worked with me previously.

            I suppose things will be changing for me in the next few years. Hope the jobs will still come by as easy, but I think I may have to downscale eventually. I would take a contract for QA or App Support if I have to, as long as the money was still halfway decent.

        • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

          Just get some skills under your belt and work on certifications when you can, which are *way* more important than your degree if you’re going into programming or networking or even database admin. Once you can put some years on a resume for a given skill you’ll basically start writing your own ticket. Always ensure that you keep branching out and learning new skills/languages because while you may program in XYZ++ for ten years, eventually that’s going away except for legacy stuff and they’ll only need one guy in your shop to support legacy and ten to one it won’t be you.

        • AutomaticSlim

          Yeah. Always try to make the most money as possible.
          I am not joking. Target industries that pay the best.
          I have spent 97% of my “career” in the IT depts of Wall St. firms. The only company I worked for outside of finance was a large Supermarket chain on the west coast. Was there for about 1.5 years. If I had stayed there, I maybe never would have broken the 6 figure mark.

          Also, never stay in one place too long. Unless you have a “rabbi/godfather”, you will never make big increases by staying with the same firm. Try to jump around every 3 years or so.

          Finally, as you start approaching your early 30s, you will have a decision to make. You will obviously want to start making big money, and in IT, there are a few ways to do it.
          Go into management, become an independent consultant, or maybe, if you are really motivated and willing to take risks, start your own firm (consulting/staffing, software development, IT recruiting, etc..). I went the independent consultant route (I am a corporation with 1 employee – me), but at 32 I had an opportunity to go into business for real. Was already consulting at that point and make good $$$, so I did not want to take the risk and put in the extra work. Was one the biggest mistakes in my life (which has had MANY bug mistakes, as you would know if you have seen any of my posts on ROK). If you get an opportunity like that down the line, I say go for it!

        • B1k3_Ch41N

          Bet everything on 16 red! That’s my advice.

          • AutomaticSlim

            And if he wins, I would say to blow it on the hottest hooker in the casino!

          • B1k3_Ch41N

            Bet the hooker at the roulette too and you might win more hookers! Again 16 red
            Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

          • AutomaticSlim

            Reminds me of the “Married with Children” when Kelly knew all the winning numbers…right up until Al bet all his money.

        • L’UltimoConservatore

          I’m not good at giving advice. I got myself 3 degrees, and ended up out of the US writing mobile apps for a living. Something that doesn’t require a degree at all… Hey, maybe I can give some advice after all!

          Whatever you do, stop at the bachelor’s level. Don’t go my route. If you’re any good at art, or even if you’re not, try your hand at writing apps. If you get an app up on one of the stores that’s probably better than anything else on a resume.

          Presumably that is. After my first app almost paid off my gargantuan student loans, I figured I wouldn’t be working for anyone but myself from then on. Well.. I’d hire me anyway. Whether or not anyone else would is a question that may never be answered. 😀

  • John Galt

    Downtime is usually when I catch up on my sleep, read one of the books piled on my nightstand or complete a few tasks that I ignored for too long. It’s the time to look on the back burner and see whats piled up there.

    OT: I read the speech the POTUS spoke at the UN. He knocked it out of the park.

    “The socialist dictatorship of Nicolas Maduro has inflicted terrible pain and suffering on the good people of that country. This corrupt regime destroyed a prosperous nation by imposing a failed ideology that has produced poverty and misery everywhere it has been tried.”

    • cheeseburgercheeseburger

      people are eating dogs and zoo animals in Venezuela…socialism works!

      • bem

        unless you’re a dog apparently!

        • It’s a socialist eat dog world out there, I tell ya.

          • bem

            In socialist RAH-sha, dog….uh, still eats dog….

        • cheeseburgercheeseburger

          Maduero wants oil payment in yuan- you here about that? Russia lent some oil outfit a boadload of cash years ago, they defaulted, and now Russia foreclosed on that company…

      • John Galt

        Where is PETA on this issue?
        I liked how he called out socialism as the failed ideology that it is, but one also notices that it won’t stop congress from trying to implement it.

        • cheeseburgercheeseburger

          second half of that sentence is not computing for me

          • John Galt

            Amended. You have a leader of a Nation pointing out socialism is a failure while half of the elected representatives want to implement socialism.

          • cheeseburgercheeseburger

            wow he actually called them socialists? good stuff

        • bem

          That’s the thing. Trump may be a buffoon, but I like that he’s the only one even SAYING the shit that needs to be said.

        • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

          That’s because nobody really understands what the word means, they just know “it’s bad!”. They don’t put nationalizing the means of production into the same slot as “socialism” because schools have been very careful not to associate real socialism with anything bad, while simultaneously allowing “Socialism sucks!” to peculate through society.

          • John Galt

            “Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.”
            – Winston Churchill

          • bem
          • AutomaticSlim

            Globalist, socialist, tomato, tomahto…

          • Hipponax (μητροκοίτης)

            OH MAN! I have been trying to type that expression for ages and never thought to do it that way so it always comes out like tomato, tomato which doesn’t make any fucking sense. Well played Slim.

          • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

            That man was a larger than life hero. It’s no mistake that modern Britons have been educated from cradle to grave to hate him like they do now.

          • cheeseburgercheeseburger

            Gary Oldman is starring as Winston in an upcoming movie

          • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

            For some reason I initially read that as “Gary Coleman” and thought “Are you fucking kidding me!?!” True story.

          • bem

            hahahhahaha! I thought I was exited about Gary Oldman – but THIS would be the best thing in the world!

          • Ainigmaris Thales

            “Whatchu talkin’ bout, Hitler?”

          • cheeseburgercheeseburger

            hahaha thread weiner

          • cheeseburgercheeseburger

            RIP Arnold

          • Ainigmaris Thales

            Gary Oldman is one of the finest actors of this generation, and he gets very little credit for it.

          • John Galt

            Which I never understood. Their rabid hatred of Thatcher runs in the same vein.

          • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

            Yep. They are so utterly brainwashed sheep that even trying to discuss it with them objectively without taking sides is impossible

          • John Galt

            Pointing that out to them seems to baffle them as well. I met one chap who did nothing put blame Tories for everything under the sun. I asked about Blarir and Brown’s reign and how much responsiblity they were responsible for after reigning for 16 years– *crickets*
            They defend the NHS like it is holy and no facts, figures or the staff’s incompetence will deter them.

          • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

            Yeah, I’ve heard the NHS spiel too. And the “we never had a gun culture” spiel. All such obvious bullshit that cracking even a single book from prior to 1950 will show that they are utterly brainwashed. But, no talking to them even with facts in front of you, they are truly “Convinced”.

          • bem

            I work with a British guy (now a citizen here) who sings the praises of the NHS. Naturally I politely ask “why don’t you go the fuk home?”
            Turns out the MS medication he needs to ya know, uh, LIVE is not available through the NHS.
            He gets it here for a nominal fee through our (I admit at times costly) insurance plan.

          • cheeseburgercheeseburger

            Ive read plenty of horror stories about euro healthcare. one guy fell off his bike, dislocated and fractured his wrist; dr did what he could, but said he’d need surgery within 6 wks or he’d be permanently injured. closest time to see a surgeon(see him, not have surgery) was 7 weeks…
            but michael moore swears up and down socialized medicine works

          • John Galt

            You will die waiting.

            Funny thing about fat Mike and his fake film “Sicko”- the film was shown to cuban doctors who promtly walked out in the middle of it. The hospital fat Mike used for his prop is only for elite cuban party members. Its closed to the public.

          • Henry VIII

            Michael Moore…the guy who supports trade unions yet treat hiw own emplyees like dirt.
            The guy who mocks religions yet goes to church.
            The guy who mocks big corporations…but accepts donations from big corporations.

          • bem

            Situational Ethics is the order of the day for liberals.

          • Henry VIII

            If you have to rely on the NHS for your healthcare and you have a serious or chronic condition, you are screwed. The NHS might have been good in the ’50s and ’60s…but it is really bad now. Most citizens pay first-world taxes and receive third-world healthcare. That’s the UK for you.
            Also, remember, private Healthcare is really unaffordable in the UK. (And essentially BUPA is the only private healthcare, having no real competition.)
            While in the US, you can have a private health insurance plan for a reasonable price.
            (I in the UK at the moment, but moving to the USA next eyar.)

          • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

            Bring your awesome codpieces!

          • bem

            ‘appy to ‘ave ya, ‘enry!

          • Henry VIII

            (in Philadephia accent:) Ard! Thanks, bro!

          • bem

            well we have time to work on that….

          • Murdoc34

            fuckin’ A.

          • Henry VIII

            The NHS is truly shit these days.
            (Mind you, Britain used to provide the best quality public healthcare system in the Western world. Well, that was decades ago.)

          • B1k3_Ch41N

            He comes from a working class background from my neck of the woods, matter of fact his family is so working class he’s a Millwall supporter. Ruffians!
            Gen Xers are very divided on Thatcher, with some praising her and others who hating her to bits.

          • John Galt

            The ones I met during my travels in the UK hated her accept one. His father was a lifer in the army and his mother was actually openly supporting Thathcher in a mining town during the strikes. He said he used to fear for her safety as a lad.

  • Consolation_of_Philosophy

    I think how we face and respond to downtime is really dependent on personality and the circumstance of the moment — there is no one set way to face it. But one thing is universally true: burnout is real. And burnout has negative consequences that extend past you, yourself. When/if you burnout, nobody will thank you for burning yourself out; you’ll be derided for it.

    So, make pleasure a duty. Make fun and laughter an obligation to yourself that must be fulfilled alongside every other obligation of the day. Let joy be a responsibility, and keep it well.

    • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

      So, make pleasure a duty. Make fun and laughter an obligation to
      yourself that must be fulfilled alongside every other obligation of the
      day. Let joy be a responsibility, and keep it well.

      QFT

      Outstanding!

    • I am too tired of all the guys in the sphere praising the hustle 24/7. They will all experience burnout and learn to make fun a responsibility. I personally enjoy video games 2 hours per day and a bottle of wine every week.

      • Iattacku

        oh snap what video games do you play?

        • At the moment I play some Overwatch, rarely Diablo 3 Season and I like Payday 2. I also have DotA 2 and CSGO.

          • Iattacku

            I have 3 of those

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    • Better Dead Than Red

      I could not agree more with you. I got deep burnout during my PhD which led me to almost zero producitivity for one year. Pleasure is now a duty: I just got a Colombian girl and spending time with her I take it as important as publishing. My life is much better.

      • Iattacku

        what is your phd in if you dont mind me asking

        • Better Dead Than Red

          STEM. I cannot tell more through here.

  • AutomaticSlim

    Nice article.
    Especially being that today is my mandatory day off.

    • cheeseburgercheeseburger

      u freelance?

      • AutomaticSlim

        Yeah.
        1099 Consultant/contractor.
        Part of my current contract is mandatory “furlough days”.

    • Love when it works out like that

  • Lou Skunt

    Downtime probably has different meanings for different people and much of it may depend on your lifestyle, work schedule, etc.

    For me, I can break it down two ways:

    1) Downtime from Exhaustion… I will catch up on needed sleep, take an afternoon nap, detach from all electronic communication (phone, email, computer, etc) – this truly recharges me.

    2) Downtime as a Break from Work… Most people still consider this work, but I love turning on some good music and detailing cars in the garage – this brings me great pleasure. Believe it or not, I also enjoy mowing the grass; I put on my glasses and earplugs, and go to town. Even though I’m sitting on this loud machine for a couple of hours, my mind is clear and free of any distractions – I’ve solved some pretty large challenges while mowing. Hell, I even like to get a can of paint and go around the house touching up things, to me it’s very peaceful.

    There’s something for everybody, but some form of downtime is absolutely necessary for maintaining proper mental and physical health.

    • Honey Badger

      Absolutely agree. One of the things that irks me a little about the manosphere is the push for constant productivity, even in your downtime. You should be going to the gym, learning new skills, learning a new language, learning game, practicing game, working on your side business, reading, etc. All these are great but sometimes I just want to sit on the couch in my underwear, eating a bowl of ice cream while watching Blazing Saddles for the 179th time.

      • dckhead_con_artist

        Or goodfellas and scarface

      • cheeseburgercheeseburger

        thought this would be your fave movie

        • Honey Badger

          Ha! At least you didn’t put up Unbreakbale.

  • Ainigmaris Thales

    OT: “France may make asking women for their phone number a CRIMINAL offence”

    The headline is a little more sensational than the article, which is really just about politicians virtue-signaling… but the reality isn’t that far away if we keep going the way we are going.

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4506566/france-wolf-whistling-chatting-up-telephone-number-sexism/

    • bem

      Is “The Sun” the one with the boobies?

      • Hipponax (μητροκοίτης)

        no the sun is the one made of hydrogen and helium

        • Ainigmaris Thales

          Are you suggesting an inanimate object made of hydrogen and helium can’t also be a strong, beautiful, independent woman? You misogynist bigot!

        • hand_drill

          That’s not what I was taught in Sunday school.

          • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

            Sure, but UpseyDaisyum was discredited long ago.

          • hand_drill

            I’m not that old.

        • bem

          must be why it floats in the sky.

          • Hipponax (μητροκοίτης)

            took 19 minutes for that huh

          • bem

            you know I DO work here too………

      • Don’t know but one thing is clear, the sun loves to prank spiders.
        (“Oh yeah!” says Kool Aid Man, “Two hours later, who can beat the record?”)

    • hand_drill

      Politicians just want to keep people from having a good time so they keep paying for their own demise.

      • Hipponax (μητροκοίτης)

        Actually, I would think it is exactly the opposite. People who are making money on the world want the status quo to continue which means letting people enjoy themselves to death. As for making asking for a phone number a criminal offense, first of all, not everything some junior politician says to make political points with his constituency is a serious consideration and, more to the point, it is only a criminal offense if you don’t turn the woman on. In one way I kind of like it. We have all been on the dating trapeze for long enough. Time to take away the net and make it exciting. Success means a lay and failure means jail. Now we separate the good womanizers from the great womanizers.

        • hand_drill

          Times “Womanizer of the Year”

        • Ainigmaris Thales

          “some junior politician”

          Technically, Macron is the President of France.

          • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

            He’s still in the junior leagues though. I mean President of France, don’t you get awarded that if you turn in ten Lucky Charms box tops?

          • bem

            nah you’re thinking Ireland.

          • Hipponax (μητροκοίτης)

            president is a fairly low ranking title in Ireland. The highest rank in Ireland is to have a bar in queens named after you.

          • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

            I thought it was to be the top town drunk of all the town drunks in Ireland?

          • I thought it was to fight the brother of a comely redhead lass once you moved there after accidentally killing a man in the ring. Never mind, I’ll be quiet.

          • John Galt

            Quiet man you are.

          • Hipponax (μητροκοίτης)

            That’s an important position for sure but still, having a bar in queens with your name is as big as it gets

          • Hipponax (μητροκοίτης)

            is that a position that carries any actual power. Don’t they also have a prime minister, a head sommelier, 50 cheese mongers and jerry lewis to answer to? If we took everything that an American president said in a speech seriously it would be absurd. Presidents tell whichever idiots they are speaking to what they want to hear and while the American presidency is a toothless shame, the French one is even sillier.

          • B1k3_Ch41N

            French presidents should be chosen via a raffle from a choice of the country’s beat mimes. International summits would be hilarious.

          • Hipponax (μητροκοίτης)

            all presidents should be chosen that way!

          • B1k3_Ch41N

            Lawn darts would be another viable choice, but with the first person to catch a dart inbetween his butt cheeks being named president.

          • Hipponax (μητροκοίτης)

            Always

          • bem

            That’s like being the mayor of Altoona.

          • Hipponax (μητροκοίτης)

            Caryl Jean Conkling?

          • bem

            Matt Pacifico!!!!

    • In some places it should be criminal for the women to give out their number…

      • B1k3_Ch41N

        Wife no 3 or wife no 5?

        • No, no wife, but most girls let me 3, and while 5 makes a lot sort of nervous they usually go along.

    • dckhead_con_artist

      I wish they would make fat women right swiping me on tinder, a crime

      • Jim Johnson

        Can’t do that, that would be akin to victim blaming. It isn’t their choice that they are fat. You being a man? well….look at Bruce Jenner.

  • EastsideProphet

    Every now and then, I tell the wife I’m headed to the woods. A nice hike, I find, clears the mind and can be spiritually rejuvenating as well. Not really productive in itself, but the good it does me is indirectly productive.

    • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

      Every now and then, I tell the wife I’m headed to the woods. A nice hike,

      Yeah, me too, but she’s starting to wonder about the correlation to woods and the smell of Scotch on my breath.

      • bem

        mine kept asking me what I was digging the hole there for…..

      • EastsideProphet

        Scotch, as everybody knows, comes from scotchberries, which are commonly found throughout North American undergrowth.

        • GhostOfJefferson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

          There’s at least a 40% chance that most women would buy that.

    • Jim Johnson

      if i tell her that she says “take the older kids with you”

      • EastsideProphet

        Tell her on the way down the road..

  • UnreconstructedConfederate

    Downtime is supposed to be just that, downtime. You don’t have to have a plan for everything. Just take it easy .

  • dckhead_con_artist

    This is what Jessica Simpson looks like now because she wasted her downtime… https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c714f0e899338fa591bb1be768ed7374f3f92fc935b4815fa8cd6f6b78ea7583.jpg

    • bem

      WSB

      • dckhead_con_artist

        Will Send Boat ?

        • Jim Johnson

          Wrong smell, Beavis.

    • UWOTM8

      Life comes at you fast….for everything else there’s personal standards

    • L’UltimoConservatore

      All I can think of is to quote The Princess Bride: “Dear God, what is that THING!?”